Numinus CEO, Payton Nyquvest, on chronic pain, community, training, and the future of psychedelic therapy

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined by Numinus CEO, Payton Nyquvest. Payton share’s his personal experience with psychedelic healing and reveals how his desire to pay forward his healing experience resulted in the formation of Numinus. They talk about the importance of community in the psychedelic therapy context, explore some of the challenges that psychedelic therapy clinics currently face, discuss the importance of good training for psychedelic therapists, (especially experiential training), and much more.

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How to become a psychedelic therapist

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the various pathways that lead to a profession in psychedelic-assisted therapy. They talk about the twists and turns of their own paths to this profession, why people might want to pursue this speciality and why they might not, different training opportunities including those associated with clinical trials, the Numinus psychedelic therapy certification pathway, the how different licensed professionals can get involved, non-licensed paths to psychedelic work, and much more.

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Richard Schwartz, PhD, on psychedelic-assisted IFS for eating disorders and spiritual development

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined by Dr. Richard Schwartz. Dick is the creator of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, a therapeutic modality that has seen a recent spike in popularity, especially in the psychedelic therapy space. They discuss the origin story of IFS, how psychedelics affect the parts that comprise the internal family system, what psychedelic research Dick would like to see done, how IFS is used to treat eating disorders, and how IFS might be thought of as a spiritual practice in addition to a psychotherapy model.

Parts work, IFS, and working with parts in psychedelic therapy

In today’s episode of Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined by Dr. Rachel Harris to discuss her new book, Swimming in the Sacred: Wisdom From the Psychedelic Underground. Rachel is a psychologist with a 40-year history as a therapist, researcher, and author. Today she walks us through the insights she’s gleaned from interviewing women who have been practicing as guides in the psychedelic underground for decades.

(3:06) Steve introduces parts work
(6:48) There are no bad parts and what do parts look like?
(9:26) The inner-child
(11:42) IFS
(14:38) The 8 C's

What makes group therapy so special?

In today’s episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss what makes group therapy so special. They explore the unique advantages of groups, both psychedelic and non-psychedelic, and discuss some of the potential drawbacks of group work.

(1:54) Why don't we do more group therapy in mental health?
(4:53) Creating bonds through group therapy
(6:50) Differences between solo and group
(11:57) The art of group therapy
(16:29) Challenges
(26:00) We are wired to connect
(27:29) Psychedelic group therapy research
(29:05) Connected but alone

Trauma-informed psychedelic therapy, training, and chronic pain with Dr. Devon Christie

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined by Dr. Devon Christie. Devon is the senior lead of psychedelic programs at Numinus and one of the primary architects of our psychedelic therapy training programs. She teaches for the California Institute of Integral Studies Certificate Program in Psychedelic Therapy and Research, the Integrative Psychiatry Institute Certificate Program in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy, and Psychedelics Today’s VITAL program, among others. She’s a busy woman. She has expertise in mindfulness based stress reduction, relational somatic therapy for trauma, and in both MDMA and Ketamine assisted psychotherapy.

Our conversation today is wide-ranging. We talk about trauma-informed psychedelic-assisted therapy, explore the current training landscape for psychedelic therapists, discuss the similarities and differences between plant medicine ceremony and psychedelic-assisted therapy, briefly touch on the potential for psychedelics to help with chronic pain, and much more.

(4:11) What drives Dr. Devon Christie
(14:54) Differences between plant medicine ceremony and psychedelic assisted psychotherapy
(22:45) Trauma informed care
(23:41) Why you should be ready
(31:51) The key to resolving trauma
(37:57) Trauma is transcendent
(44:23) The potential danger of overlaying worldviews on others
(52:15) Psychedelic trainings

How to hold space for others, yourself, and in psychedelic therapy

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison talk about holding space. They discuss what it means to hold space for others, why holding space is a gift when done well, how to hold space for yourself, and they explore the power that skillful space-holding has in a psychedelic therapy session.

(2:12) The concept of holding space
(6:38) Developing the skill
(8:21) Holding space in a relationship
(13:10) Reasons why holding space can be difficult
(18:50) Qualities of space holding
(29:14) Benefits of someone holding space for you
(34:23) Psychedelic space holding
(37:06) Reid's vulnerability question
(42:36) Steve on validation

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A good death, living well, and psychedelic therapy in palliative care with Anthony Back, M.D.

 

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews Dr. Anthony Back, M.D. Dr. Back is a co-founder of VitalTalk, a national nonprofit that provides innovative, interactive clinician and faculty development courses to improve communication skills on an individual and institutional level. Dr. Back is a professor of medicine at the University of Washington in Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Dr. Back earned his MD at Harvard University. He is triple-board certified in hospice and palliative medicine, medical oncology, and general internal medicine. In his role as a medical communication educator and a VitalTalk co-founder, Dr. Back was the principal investigator for Oncotalk, co-wrote Mastering Communication with Seriously Ill Patients, released the first iPhone app for clinician communication skills, and authored the online communication skills curriculum offered by the Center to Advance Palliative Care.

(3:00) Dr. Back introduces himself
(6:55) What is palliative care?
(9:06) Improving quality of life and having a good death
(15:30) The applications of psychedelics for end-of-life care
(17:35) Dr. Back's article, "What psilocybin taught me about dying"
(21:00) Materialist vs spiritualist views of life and death
(29:14) Roland Griffiths' cancer diagnosis
(34:07) Gratitude for cancer
(38:22) How psychedelics might help people at end-of-life
(55:23) Randomized trial of psilocybin for health care practitioners with depression
(01:01:07) How do you train a health care practitioner in good palliative care?
(01:07:51) How do we scale psychedelic-assisted therapy?

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When therapists go to therapy with Hannah Cross, LCSW

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison joined again by Hannah Cross, LCSW. Hannah is a licensed clinical social worker, excellent therapist, reiki master, yoga teacher, ecstatic dance facilitator, and an expert at using psychedelic medicines to enhance the psychotherapy process. Like many therapists, Reid, Hannah, and Steve have benefited tremendously from receiving their own therapy and coaching over the years. In this episode, they discuss some of those experiences in an effort to normalize seeking help, especially for those of you who are in or aspire to be in the helping profession.

(1:22) A Brief For The Defense, poem by Jack Gilbert
(3:10) Jack Kornfield on The Tim Ferriss Show
(6:34) Hapé snuff
(8:27) Learning therapy skills by being in therapy
(11:25) You can only take someone as deep as you've gone yourself
(14:11) What is hapé snuff?
(18:40) Benefitting from the therapeutic tools we offer our clients
(20:32) Some of the originators of modern Western psychotherapy
(24:40) Somatic and experiential therapies
(27:09) What to consider when looking for a therapist
(31:42) The difference between therapy and coaching
(35:17) Steve reflects on personal therapy journeys
(39:20) What makes therapy special?
(42:44) Reid reflects on personal therapy journeys
(46:27) Hannah reflects on personal therapy journeys
(50:20) Returning home to the body

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Essential qualities and skills of the psychedelic therapist

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss qualities and skills they think are essential for therapists who provide psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. They cover the following topics:

(1:15) Introduction to the topic
(3:21) The art and science of psychedelic trip-sitting episode
(3:44) The value of the podcast media platform
(6:27) Women Food and God: An Unexpected Path to Almost Everything, by Geneen Roth
(7:14) Being present and attentive
(10:17) Transference, countertransference, and awareness of your triggers
(10:50) Strategic use of silence
(12:55) The art and science of psychotherapy
(17:07) The importance of doing your own work as a therapist
(17:58) Developing Guidelines and Competencies for the Training of Psychedelic Therapists, by Janis Phelps
(18:16) Empathetic abiding presence
(19:25) Trust enhancement
(23:50) Spiritual intelligence
(27:15) Knowledge of the physical and psychological affects of psychedelics
(31:30) Therapist self-awareness and ethical integrity
(34:04) Proficiency in complementary techniques
(35:34) The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide, by James Fadiman and infectious energy
(39:25) Patience, compassion, and intuition
(41:00) The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on The Tibetan Book of the Dead, by Timothy Leary, Ralph Metzner, and Richard Alpert

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