Music as medicine

by warrengibbon

Nov 15, 2022

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On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer, Dr. Reid Robison, and Dr. Joe Flanders discuss the healing power of music. They share their personal journeys with and connections to music, childhood piano lessons, the powerful effect music has on emotion, how they use music in psychedelic therapy, and much, much more.

(1:55) Reid’s music journey
(4:00) Steve’s music journey
(7:05) Joe’s music journey
(10:00) Why we pair music with psychedelic therapy
(13:52) What kind of music pairs well with psychedelic therapy
(16:20) East Forest and Trevor Hall concerts
(18:53) Fitting the music to the particular psychedelic medicine and Joe’s interview with Jon Hopkins
(21:35) Wavepaths: music for psychedelic therapy
(28:43) Dose matters
(30:56) Connecting to the musician by feeling their music
(36:16) Bittersweet: How Sorrow And Longing Make Us Whole, by Susan Cain
(43:33) The arc of order and chaos in music and psychedelic therapy
(46:00) Steve’s gong encounter
(47:20) How the Beatles were introduced to LSD

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